Italian patient,3200FIT in 3 days

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Italian patient,3200FIT in 3 days

Postby forhair » Fri Jul 16, 2004 11:10 am

This patient had 3200 Grafts all over is head. 700 body hairs from the chest were placed in the crown. It was a 3 days surgery. The patient is from Italy.This photos are mainly from the 2nd day and he had some more work done in his last day.
Ther is also a micro shot of a 2 hair graft from the chest (body hair).
The gallery contains 2 pages, hit the next to see the other photos.
http://www.forhair.com/hairtransplant/album_cat.php?cat_id=6
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Postby Michelle » Fri Jul 16, 2004 11:25 am

Wow, those are awesome photos... I can't wait to see how these grow in...
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Postby forhair » Sat Jul 24, 2004 9:23 am

The patient send me an update photo of his chest healing after the body hair extraction, This is a 2 week post up.
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Postby orrible* » Thu Nov 11, 2004 4:45 pm

any updates from this guy yet?

thanks
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Postby forhair » Thu Nov 11, 2004 4:47 pm

Yes, he become very fat :P
I will update as soon as he will send me his photos...
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Postby orrible* » Thu Nov 11, 2004 5:22 pm

yeah he looks like hes bordering on obese in those photos.
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Will be good to see how his hair grows in though.
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Postby forhair » Thu Nov 11, 2004 5:36 pm

or to see how his pecs have gotten... :oops:
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Postby FITLocks » Thu Nov 11, 2004 5:36 pm

"Will be good to see how his hair grows in though."

Do you like him with a hairy chest better? ;)
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Postby forhair » Thu Nov 11, 2004 5:37 pm

HAHAHA....
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Postby forhair » Thu Nov 11, 2004 6:00 pm

Hey Horrible...
One of the patients coordinator is gonna check with him about his progress...
Oh...and about his chest :twisted:
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Postby Patrick » Fri Nov 12, 2004 6:46 am

Good pictures.
I am waiting to see the result in January(6 months post-op).
Do you know if the patient is taking propecia or rogaine?
I remember ,this patient was very cool and I wish him the best.I will be happy to see him again in one year for the next step in our journey.
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Postby Patrick » Sun Nov 14, 2004 2:19 pm

Snoopey,
you have noticed that this patient is a class 6 in the Norwood scale , moving naturally to a class 7.In those cases, we always advise patients to focus their work in FRONT AND TOP and to avoid the crown because with the natural or existing donor supply it is impossible to finish all the work(I mean to give them a full coverage from front to back).
Saying that, we encourages patient to start with a procedure of 2500 to 3500 grafts in frontal zone because usually that is the more expose area when you meet somebody.After 1 year,we will go back with around 2000 grafts to increase the density.Then we will start to think to give them at least a thin look in the crown with fewer grafts (depending on the availability of the donor supply).
Body hairs have been used to increased the density in the crown or somewhere else if we are out of donor supply.Body hairs grows but we are still waiting on news data to evaluate the yield,the behavior of bodyhairs characteristics,...Some theories suggest body hairs will acquire scalp hairs characteristics.We don't push people to use them in front or hair line until we will be sure about the outcomes.We are comfortable to use them in the crown and top to improve the density.
This patient wanted to reserve all his scalp donor for the frontal work.As we were discouraging to do any work in the crown (wisdom of donor supply preservation) and that all the study are talking about using body hairs in the crown,he choosed to start with those 2 plans.
Using scalps hairs for the front(saving donor supply) and body hairs in the crown (which is really what we will end up proposing in 2 years from now). I found myself that approach very interesting .We can assess the yield between scalp hairs and body hairs ,grafted in the same conditions,at the same time , and one beside the others.Good perspectives for the future.
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Postby orrible* » Mon Nov 15, 2004 8:04 pm

I just liked the guys initial placement, looked great so would be good to see follow ups. His hairline is fantastic, so it encourages me that a guy heading to a nw7 can have that hairline. It means as im hopefully heading to a less extent of baldness that I could have a hairline such as that when appropriate.

Regarding his pecs I reckon I could out bench press him in the gym anytime:)

As hes heading to a nw7 is he on propecia, and if so why is it worth it?
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Postby FITLocks » Mon Nov 15, 2004 11:55 pm

I am not certain of the medications this patient is taking. Hair restoration is improving all the time though. So if this patient can delay further hair loss it is a good idea. There's a big enough difference between a nw6 and a nw7.
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Postby FITLocks » Sun Nov 28, 2004 4:09 pm

Snoopey,

With FIT you can push the donor a bit harder than with strip exision.

"Then we will start to think to give them at least a thin look in the crown with fewer grafts (depending on the availability of the donor supply)."

After thickening the frontal area with 2000 more FIT this patient will still have more donor hairs. The crown will be thin, however, simply because the crown is deceptively big on a stage six and the multi-directions of the spiral with compromise coverage. The patient will have more than 5000 FUs total to donate. He may not have 10,000 though.
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Postby Patrick » Tue Nov 30, 2004 11:39 pm

:) Let's talk about numbers!
The average frontal and top area is 100 square cm and the average FU density we usually try to get to have good coverage is 60 to 80 ;which means that we need around 6000 to 8000 grafts in that area.With 4500 to 5000 grafts ,we are coming closer to our numbers.Remember that in Hair Transplant ,patients usually go for 3 procedures(and it's a matter of getting that range of density).
The Italian patient need 2000 grafts in the second procedure;it doesn't mean that's all we can harvest or that all he needs.He can choose to go forth.We are limiting the 2nd procedure to 2000 grafts to avoid SHOCK LOSS(=shedding hairs due to surgery).You have existing hairs or previous grafts;you have to be carefull and not dense packing as in a bald area.
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